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Chetjan · Jul 05, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21

I know that it is better for a caster to kite and cast, rather than running and casting but why? Is there an increased chance of crit on the back of a character? What is the difference between being hit in the front and the back?
Thanks in advance.

ps. I searched the forums and could not find a related thread so if it has already been posted I apologize.

Kamara · Jul 05, 2009, 01:27 PM // 13:27

If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.

Wiki page has a little more info http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_hit

Undead King Knight · Jul 05, 2009, 02:41 PM // 14:41

So why kit if they will critical hit you?

Hollygen · Jul 05, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58

If you kite (sidestepping and backstepping), you're likely facing forward.
If you run you're facing away.

Show your back to the foes, and get critical hits when they hit.
Move whilst facing the foes, and whilst you move a bit slower, you don't get crit hits anywhere near as often

Icy The Mage · Jul 05, 2009, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Run in a diagonal zig-zag and it's the same as walking backwards, but faster.

refer · Jul 06, 2009, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Kamara

If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.

that has got to be lamest thing I have ever heard. what, do all guild wars characters have some back problem? but thanks for saying it.

subarucar · Jul 06, 2009, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by refer

that has got to be lamest thing I have ever heard. what, do all guild wars characters have some back problem? but thanks for saying it.

If you attack someones back, they cannot see you and make an attempt to dodge. You also dont have anything you can parry with, even if it is only a wand.

Picuso · Jul 06, 2009, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by Kamara

If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.

But only with melee weapons, IIRC. Spears, Bows, staves and wands don't have a 100% crit hitting a kiting foe.

Hollygen · Jul 06, 2009, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by Picuso

But only with melee weapons, IIRC. Spears, Bows, staves and wands don't have a 100% crit hitting a kiting foe.

Are you sure on that, cause that's not what the Wiki says (not that the wiki is always right, but still). You can still cause a critical hit with a non-melee weapon normally, or else we wouldn't see so many A/R bow assassins. There's no reason the rule of always critical to the back would not extend to other weapons as well

refer · Jul 06, 2009, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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Originally Posted by subarucar

If you attack someones back, they cannot see you and make an attempt to dodge. You also dont have anything you can parry with, even if it is only a wand.

That may be true but I thought critical hit was critical hit, not "back hit" lol. I agree it should be more, but not every time. That is extreme.

Faure · Jul 06, 2009, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by Hollygen

Are you sure on that, cause that's not what the Wiki says (not that the wiki is always right, but still). You can still cause a critical hit with a non-melee weapon normally, or else we wouldn't see so many A/R bow assassins. There's no reason the rule of always critical to the back would not extend to other weapons as well

A/R has the bonus of sins having a higher base chance of getting crits + the enchants that make you even more likely to crit. A/R has nothing to do with the hitting in the back type of crits.

Hollygen · Jul 06, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Faure

A/R has the bonus of sins having a higher base chance of getting crits + the enchants that make you even more likely to crit. A/R has nothing to do with the hitting in the back type of crits.

I wasn't saying that, I was just indicating that critical hits are not limitted to melee weapons, and then expanding on that to query why would non-melee weapons be limitted to one form of generating guaranteed critical hits, when it's clear thay can make them normally

Picuso · Jul 06, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58

idk, but only melee weapons are able to 100% crit hitting a kiting foe >_<

EDIT: Just tested with a spear:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/816/gw042.jpg

"Back-hit" a kitting foe. No crit. You can test it by yourself if you want to

Jul 05, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21	#1
Chetjan Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jun 2008	Kiting I know that it is better for a caster to kite and cast, rather than running and casting but why? Is there an increased chance of crit on the back of a character? What is the difference between being hit in the front and the back? Thanks in advance. ps. I searched the forums and could not find a related thread so if it has already been posted I apologize.

Jul 06, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#13
Picuso Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: far far away Profession: W/	idk, but only melee weapons are able to 100% crit hitting a kiting foe >_< EDIT: Just tested with a spear: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/816/gw042.jpg "Back-hit" a kitting foe. No crit. You can test it by yourself if you want to Last edited by Picuso; Jul 06, 2009 at 01:11 PM // 13:11..

Jul 05, 2009, 01:27 PM // 13:27	#2
Kamara Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ponie Hill, Lion's Arch International Guild: Blinkie Kaulitz Armie Profession: E/	If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will always result in a critical hit. Wiki page has a little more info http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_hit

Jul 05, 2009, 02:41 PM // 14:41	#3
Undead King Knight Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2009 Guild: Imperious Vengance [IV] Profession: W/	So why kit if they will critical hit you?

Jul 05, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#4
Hollygen Core Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Guild: Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa] Profession: R/	If you kite (sidestepping and backstepping), you're likely facing forward. If you run you're facing away. Show your back to the foes, and get critical hits when they hit. Move whilst facing the foes, and whilst you move a bit slower, you don't get crit hits anywhere near as often

Jul 05, 2009, 03:37 PM // 15:37	#5
Icy The Mage Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Profession: E/	Run in a diagonal zig-zag and it's the same as walking backwards, but faster.